MJ - 123 - Every Body Hurts

Dave: [00:00:00] This is Dave. This is Reese, and this is Manic Joy, a podcast about

Reese: life,

Dave: love, and UNC uncertainty

Reese: like we do it.

Dave: She had enough of your crap.

Reese: Ooh, this coffees strong.

Dave: Oh yeah. Hey Reese.

Reese: Hi David.

Dave: Ah, birthday to you. Oof.

Reese: Yeah,

Dave: you did it.

Reese: I did it.

Dave: You made it. Another old,

Reese: I made it to another old happy ons.

Dave: The field to be old.

Reese: It everything hurts. That's what we should name this episode. Everybody hurts.

Dave: Every body hurts.

Reese: Every body. BODY hurts. Every part of my body. Hurts. Hurts. Like right now the elbow is really

Dave: Oh yeah. Elbows still causing me some trouble. I bet.

Reese: Yeah. And like my lower back is not the [00:01:00] best. And

Dave: then my

Reese: crooked pinky, my eyes are watering. I don't know man. I'm feeling it it feels like I, we went out and partied. At some club at and and went to a rave. That's who I feel.

Dave: Instead, we had dinner plans for 6 45. When we got in early, it was like, can we come in at five 30 instead? And we were like, yes, we, how excited were we about the fact that, so excited.

Ooh, now we get to go home and lay in bed and watch TV shows,

Reese: which didn't happen because we got home. We watched

Dave: a show.

Reese: A show, and then fell asleep at, fell asleep. Nine 30

Dave: maybe ish. Let's hope.

Reese: I also try to take a check, a fricking bath. I just, I get the,

Dave: a bath,

Reese: I, I get I'm usually like warm and sweating all the time, but then for some reason, every once in a while I'll get like extremely,

Dave: some of us call that hot and bothered

Reese: but not in a good way.

And so I just. I don't know when we got in 'cause it was like really damp and gross and it snowed [00:02:00] yesterday because Happy Spring.

Dave: Apparently it was snowing this morning too.

Reese: Oh really? Yeah. Fantastic.

Dave: I don't like it.

Reese: Yeah, so I just wanted to have a nice little bath to warm up. And it was legitimately, it went from,

like, it came out a little hot and I was like, all right, this is good.

And then all of a sudden lukewarm to freezing cold. And I'm laying in there and I'm texting you from there. I'm like, I'm so cold.

Dave: Yeah, it was fun.

Reese: I was so cold.

Dave: You actually called me.

Reese: I did call

you.

Dave: And I was like, okay.

Reese: I was I was afraid to get out. I was almost gonna have you come go warm up a towel.

And then wait for me and wrap me up when I get out.

Dave: Wow.

Reese: Yeah. It was that bad, but I,

Dave: wow.

Reese: I was brave.

Dave: You brave girl. You made it.

Reese: I was brave. So yeah, yesterday was my birthday was a great day actually. It was really fun.

Dave: Tell us about your birthday.

Reese: From what I remember we had to wake up a little early because we had to drive all the way.

It was like 50 minutes.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: To. What part of mass is that?

Dave: I don't even [00:03:00] know. I didn't pay attention to where we were. It's,

Reese: yeah, it's pretty far. It's like past Beverly.

So we had to leave early and we've been doing the intermittent fasting, so I was a little nervous 'cause you were gonna come with me and I was a little nervous I don't know that you weren't gonna make it through.

I had auditions and I was afraid I don't know, like I was just nervous. We weren't gonna be able to eat and it was gonna be like a whole thing. But you made sandwiches.

Dave: I made sandwiches,

Reese: which was really nice. So we got there without any problems. The weather was just so bl

Dave: It was gross out.

Reese: It was gross. And then then we got there and we had, it was second day of auditions for these five plays that a friend of mine wrote. They're wonderful. I love them. I love the play that I'm directing. Super excited. And then one of Jen Sterns brought some. Bakery treats.

Dave: Mmmm.

Reese: Which was awesome.

One of them I couldn't eat.

Dave: Yep. I did though.

Reese: It was you, but was it good?

Dave: Yeah,

Reese: it was a strawberry filled

Dave: lobster tail.

Reese: Lobster tail.

And then I got a cute

Dave: strawberry

cream.

Reese: I know that was such a bummer. But [00:04:00] it was, everything else was delicious. I got some cute gifts from the person who wrote the plays.

Very sweet. Good time. Everybody had a good time. I got to play with a baby.

Dave: You did.

Reese: I was loving that baby. He was super cute and just looked around and didn't like, he wasn't like a whiny little bitch. He was awesome. I enjoyed quality time with him. Then we left there, had pre drinks and apps.

Dave: Mm-hmm.

Reese: And then we went to 80 Thoreau and I'm excited that, I always look forward 'cause their menu's always different.

Yeah. I love that. Yeah. 'cause it saves me from ordering the same thing every single time. Mm-hmm. And it forces me to try something new. Yeah. And we were, we were very psyched in the car when they, when we came up with this, we hatched the plan and they were like, and I would, there weren't, there weren't a lot of people in there, so I think that's why we got away with it.

'cause it was super, super fricking early. It was early, was a half hour on a Saturday night. We've been

Dave: open in half hour.

Reese: But I will say those Vesper [00:05:00] martinis,

Dave: those were good. So

Reese: were delightful.

Dave: I sleuthed

it because we were like, wait, these are different. Yeah. And by the way, we should let people know that we are recording this on early on a Sunday morning right now, and we're drinking coffee.

Yep. So we're having a coffee.

Reese: Yeah. Let's switch it up a little bit.

Dave: Little thing here. So

Reese: change of pace

Dave: The vesper though last night, which is, if you've been listening to this show any amount of time, it's our classic, that's our go-to beverage. Of choice. We'll actually have to, we should definitely get a recipe on that up.

But what, what I wanna try to do with the recipes, we do have the El Diablo from the last one. 'cause we're gonna have to do some backtracking and it's only a hundred and something episodes. But what we'll do,

Reese: you

can ask Cathy,

Dave: She'll help. But what I'd like to do is have them match the episodes.

Like the what we, what we had. On that episode.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: Because what, right now, what it's doing is the drink helps promote the episode as well.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: So if I can, I'd like to have okay, on [00:06:00] episode 72 we drank this.

Reese: Oh, okay.

Dave: Do you know what I mean?

Reese: See what you're saying. Mm-hmm.

Dave: And then it'll

Reese: mm-hmm.

Dave: And then it'll connect to all of those.

Reese: Were

we al I don't, were we

Dave: No.

Reese: Always having a drink. We didn't start that way. So we

Dave: It

started later. Yeah. So I'd love to figure out like when it started. So all that stuff, all that history,

our drinking problem online.

Reese: Yes. Let's figure that out.

Dave: So anyway, a typical I have the picture here. I'll have to look at what it was actually called. So a typical Vesper.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: How we make it, it's three parts gin, one part vodka to half part Lillet blanc. It tastes good. We had the one we had last night and it was like a little, little bit sweeter. It had a little bit of a, I, this wasn't what it was, but I wanna say it was like, almost like there was like a little bit of a powdered sugar taste to it.

A little bit like you, it was like a slight,

Reese: it was subtle.

Dave: It was subtle, slight,

Reese: and it was perfect.

Dave: And I was

like, this is different. Had, I was like, why is this different?

Reese: It

had and a lemon. Flavor was just

Dave: a little different,

Reese: a little different. And

But it [00:07:00] was there.

Dave: One of the things I never do is put the, I don't bother with the, like the twist of lemon, for example.

I'm like, ah, it just, I don't, I don't need to get that fancy with it. And so I was wondering, I was like is this like the, the, es express of the lemon expressing the lemon, lemon peel? Is that giving it the, I was really like, what is this? And yeah, I finally went and I asked the. The bartender.

I was like, okay, help me out here. I'm like, you're doing gin, you're doing vodka Lillet blanc. And she's actually, we don't, we don't have Lillet blanc. So I use the closest thing to that, which is called Cocchi Americano, and that's an Apertif wine. So that's why it was a little

bit

Reese: apertif. What does that mean?

Dave: So it's like a, like a sweet. Sweet wine.

Reese: So would this be considered Dave's deep dive?

Dave: Oh, maybe. Yeah.

Reese: Are we gonna add

that element to the

Dave: No, that that's fine.

Dave's deep dive.

Reese: Dave's

Dave: well. So

Reese: deep dive.

Dave: I like it.

Reese: We should do each other's. This is voiceover to do it well.

Dave: Okay. So here's what we, so I like these [00:08:00] ideas.

It's gonna take us a little while to create like the things to go with it. But we should spend a day, maybe that's what we'll do next week, is maybe we can find some time to spend a day and figure out, okay. If we did. Dave's deep dive. If we did Reese's Rants or we did Reese's Fun fact.

Whichever one or both of them.

Reese: A rant could also, I, it could be a fun fact because I like Reese's rant so I can rant,

Dave: So I can rant

Reese: and complain

Dave: so well.

Reese: Shut up. Keep going.

Dave: The whole episode is gonna be called

Reese: Shut up Dave. It's gonna be about you. Shut up.

I'm gonna be complaining about you.

Just kidding. Actually, I had a really wonderful day yesterday, and most of that surprisingly was due to you. Thank you.

Dave: Oh,

surprisingly sweet. Glad I could help. So anyway, yes, they used that instead of the Lillet Blanc and I'm not against it. Yeah, I would try that next time. Yeah. To see if that was good.

Great. So that was the deep dive in the, into the Vesper. Martini,

Reese: thank you for joining us on today's Dave's Deep dive.

Dave: Ooh.

Reese: And

then it's like a. Pool splash noise [00:09:00] after.

Dave: Oh, I like it.

Reese: See?

Dave: All right, I'm gonna write this down.

Reese: All

right.

Dave: Pool splash.

Reese: So I guess we can also, we could do a little Reese's Fun fact.

The day that I was born there was a snowstorm. I must have told the story like a million times. My, my mom and dad were in Kings Plaza Mall. She was in the mood for a vanilla ice cream cone. He got her that. They're walking around Macy's. All of a sudden her water breaks and.

They gotta get her to the hospital. I, she was in labor with me for a long time. I remember hearing that someone, she wanted to see a mirror to see what she looked like.

Dave: Oh no.

Reese: And it was, it was bad. And she was freaking out 'cause all her veins, everything. 'cause she had like a natural birth.

Dave: Sure.

Reese: And and it was a snowstorm. So my grandmother, like people that would normally come and see her after, couldn't go because there was a snowstorm and they were stuck at the hospital. I.

Dave: [00:10:00] Wow.

Reese: And that is the lore of Marisa Rose. Being born.

Wow. Yeah.

Dave: There's a few more things on the way for you.

Reese: Oh, more gifts.

Yeah. Wow.

Dave: We're not, we're not done yet.

Reese: Wow. I love having part two of my birthday when it just keeps going and I keep getting gifts and celebrations. Yeah.

Dave: Because we had some things we were trying to do, and so we're gonna do something else when the girls come. And then I was looking for other things and then.

All of the things that you wanted to do were either sold out or we couldn't do them in the timeline that we wanted to do them.

And so then I was, then I was like, okay, let me do a couple of these things. And then some of those things also were not available. And which is why they're not here right now.

But I have managed to make it work and things are on the way.

Reese: Okay.

Dave: So you got a couple of bonus items.

Reese: Yay. I love bonus items. I'm very excited. I, bought a couple of, usually every year I will buy myself a little birthday gifts of this year. Yeah.

Dave: What'd you get this year?

Reese: I got myself a sticker album, which you

Dave: Oh God.

Reese: Made fun of me this [00:11:00] morning. Because

Dave: You know what's funny is, is because you're putting that thing together too, and it's, it wasn't like, you're like, I, I, I don't know. I guess I've never had a sticker album. So you tell me. Is, is that the way you do it? You just put the whole

Reese: Oh, yeah.

Dave: Sheet of stickers on there.

Reese: You don't,

Dave: you don't, you don't actually,

Reese: you do not peel 'em off. Wow. Yeah. Sp I'm not, I just, oh, I just. got the sticker album. Like I have to, you decorate it, but the stickers that you treasure that you really like, I they

Dave: treasure

Reese: you. So I get the one that has like the peel. I wait. Can has

Dave: can't

wait till you pass.

We

get to look at this treasure.

Reese: Are you talking about

my death

Dave: on the black market

Reese: on the day after?

Dave: Yes.

Reese: My birthday.

Dave: Okay. Now that we've had enough of that crap, let's move on to the real meat of the story.

Reese: Wow. So anyway, yeah. So sticker albums so basically I, when I was younger, had a sticker album that I loved.

I had a sticker club. I. I ran, I,

Dave: I remember this. Yeah.

Reese: Yes. [00:12:00] I had sticker clubs that I joined and it was a fun little thing.

Dave: You charge people a dollar or something?

Reese: Yeah, it was like, yeah, it was a dollar to join the sticker club and every month you get a newsletter that I hand wrote out.

Dave: Mm.

Reese: And then my father would bring it to work and make photocopies.

Dave: Yes.

Reese: So I can mail them. It was mail. There was snail mail. You had to send it out. And I had like pen pals and we would send each other. Stickers.

Dave: Yeah,

Reese: like it was like I could not, I actually do enjoy getting letters and mail, actually not bills and garbage stuff that people send, but I. It was like the anticipation of waiting for it.

And I had the cutest sticker album. And for some reason when I was cleaning out the house, I was like, what am I gonna do with this? The girls don't want this. And I left it behind. And I, that is definitely one of the biggest regrets. And so I remember telling the girls, and then when Jonnie went to LA two weeks ago, I said, there's a place called Sticker Planet.

It might be where you are. If you can go, that'd be cool. Take some [00:13:00] pictures, maybe grab me a couple. No big deal. She went. She made it a big deal, FaceTimed the whole thing, and she brought me home, the stickers and I was like I gotta get, I have to make a new sticker album, and I got a cute little pink sticker album.

And it has the peel pages. So the back is sticky. So you just put the, so it's already sticky there.

Dave: It's

Reese: not gonna move around.

Dave: It's like a picture album.

Reese: Yes. And you don't, you'd never, ever peel off your

Dave: never

Reese: treasure stickers. You just

Dave: Now I know.

Reese: Save them in the book.

Dave: I won't fucking blow it.

Reese: Don't.

Dave: And be a disgrace to the sticker.

Reese: Don't be

Dave: collecting community.

Reese: Yes, because it's, you'll get shunned.

Dave: I will un-shun.

Reese: Shun shun. So that was fun for me. So I'm excited to get the ball rolling on that.

Dave: And, and let's, let's get really ex to the, the point of this whole excitement piece is that you've got a couple scratch and sniff Snickers.

Snickers.

Reese: Snickers, yeah. They're not

some scratching s sniff Snickers.

Dave: Oh, scratching. Sniffing your Snickers.

Reese: See, but see what happens. [00:14:00] What is with the I, you sound like me now, because sometimes I'm trying to say something and it comes out so garbled. I don't know if it's. Maybe it's 'cause I'm tired, I don't know.

Or

Dave: it's because you're old.

Reese: I'm getting a speech impediment, but whatever. But yeah, one of the things when Jonnie went in there, she said she was overwhelmed because, I don't know. No, I don't know if you guys had sticker stores here in like the, in the eighties. Like I think they started to peter out around like the nineties.

It wasn't as popular. But in Kings Plaza Mall there was like they would have stores that were like in the middle. It wasn't a kiosk. This was like an actual store with like doors, whatever. And you in there. It was like the highlight of my day. Whenever we go to the mall, I immediately, my parents know, just let her freaking go in there.

They had all the walls. Wow. All the walls. I'm gonna spill my coffee on my crotch.

Dave: Wow. [00:15:00]

Reese: All of the walls.

Dave: We could have a segment called Reese goes back to Brooklyn.

Reese: All of the walls had the stickers and they were rolls. So like you can just,

Dave: yeah, yeah. You pull and peel, pull and peel. Peel and or rip.

Rip.

Reese: It was the perforated, so there was that in the center. Of it was also, they had a little thing full of hello Kitty. So it was like every single type of Hello Kitty pens, pencils stickers, tchotchkes, pencil cases.

Dave: Mm-hmm.

Reese: Like I, I was like, in my glory, my favorite thing, and I would pick this, it was like 25 cents a sheet, whatever it was, it was like the best.

And then those kind of went away. And I don't know if they. Did they have something like that here? Was this like a Boston thing?

Dave: I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did.

Reese: You're a dude, so I'm sure you weren't looking for that, but I'd be interested to know for, there were definitely female listeners.

Dave: I, I think the closest I would've gotten to that would be I used to collect the trading cards.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: And and those would have stickers in them as well. So I would do like the Star Wars ones, for example. [00:16:00]And, and the closest, so here's here was my sticker album. I had these cards and they, they would be cards, and then there would usually be a sticker in there as well.

And I had a desk in my room, and on the side of the desk is where I would stick stickers. I would put all the stickers.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: And so I just had this one side of the desk that was just completely ruined. The desk

Reese: of course,

Dave: because,

Reese: That, but that also was a thing in the eighties where you just put stickers on it.

Dave: On everything.

Reese: Everything. Yeah.

Dave: I did stickers on my computer.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: Over there.

Reese: Yeah. Yeah. I, and I think that's definitely like a Gen X. Habit of doing that. 'cause I do that. We all do it. And now the girls do it too. It's funny, but the, the big brand as I remember growing up was Sandy Lion.

That was like the big sticker brand and they had a bunch of scratch and sniff and that was one of the things I said to Jonnie, I was like, if they have the scratch and sniff, you have to get it. It wasn't, I don't think it's a Sandy Lion brand, but it's like close to what it was. It was like a circle.

And that was like the big, that was the big thing for me to get. And I remember the popcorn smell [00:17:00] was a big one. They were skunk. It was

Dave: of course

Reese: absolutely disgusting. There was jelly beans. It was like a couple.

Dave: Sure.

Reese: That was like a big thing. I. I don't know. It's just woo, like you get that rush of childhood nostalgia and like literally when she got me the stickers and I, we, ripped it open and she got me banana flavor.

The second I smelled it, I just was in my bedroom in Brooklyn just playing with my stickers and, and those smells just, I don't know, it was really nice. That's gonna be my new hobby.

Dave: Wow, great.

Reese: The time being.

I have to admit, I've been lately doing the purge in the house. Mm-hmm. Been doing a lot of cleaning and putting stuff away.

Dave: Now

Reese: getting rid of stuff.

Dave: You're just contain it to a, an album.

Reese: I'm gonna contain it to an album. And the one thing I did save that I was happy that I took it was my huge Ziploc bag full of garbage pail stickers.

Dave: So I was just gonna say the other one that I had, I did the Star Wars ones. I did the Garbage Pail Kids.

Reese: Yes.

Dave: And I had those stickers all over the place too.

Reese: Yeah, I managed to [00:18:00] save. It's a huge bag of them too,

Dave: yeah.

Reese: That used to be my favorite. And I think there was, I don't know, there was like a couple of other, I used to do trading cards too, but I can't remember what it was. But yeah, they used to come with the stickers.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: And I think I saved those too. Like I never peeled them. I saved them, but I, those were probably in the sticker album.

Dave: Yeah. The other, the other thing that I used to do was I did comic books for a little while.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: So I did GI Joe was my. I think that was really the only one. I was really like trying to collect them all kind of thing.

Yeah. Yeah. So we used to have a comic bookstore, so you know, when you go up 28.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: There it's still around, but the, where it used to be was, when you get towards before you get to Popeye's, where the CVS is.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: Know there's a little triangle building.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: That used to be the comic bookstore.

Reese: Oh, okay.

Dave: On the first floor. That was Chris's comics, which is now further up near, right near the oh.

Reese: So Chris's comics has been around for a while. It's

Dave: a long time. Yeah. A long time.

Reese: Before New. When did Newbury Comics come out?

Dave: Oh, I don't know.

Reese: But that's a big thing here.

Dave: But that wasn't, but that more

That was, Chris's [00:19:00] comics is just like a guy that owns a shop.

Versus, Newbury comics is a big chain of, of, of things.

Right.

Yeah. So I used to go there all the time, and then you would have, obviously, different comic books for different prices and you'd find different things.

Reese: I did comic books as well. I used to do Indiana Jones, and I wish that I had those

Dave: interesting.

Reese: Those used to be my favorite.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: My father and I used to do Batman, Superman, like all of that.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: We used to go to I thi I wanna say there was a. The only one, and I think it was in Bay Ridge, was a comic bookstore and they also did like baseball cards. 'cause my father was like big into that.

Yeah, I have all his baseball cards. But, and then we used to go to the shows and so you used to be able to find like the comic books

Dave: never did that.

Reese: The all kinds of cards, not just baseball, like all of that stuff. So there was always like, someone was always collecting something in my house. But we did that.

Did you ever do. Or read the Choose Your Own Adventure books?

Dave: Oh, yeah. I had a couple of those.

Reese: Those were my [00:20:00] favorite to love those. Those were,

Dave: I forget, I wish I remembered the name of it. There was one that actually was like a combination of a choose your own adventure plus like a, like almost like a Dungeons and Dragons like.

Like you would roll dice and stuff and

Reese: Oh, fancy.

Dave: And if you won, you would move a certain way. And if you didn't, you would go another way.

Reese: Of course, you had one that had more rules and directions to it.

Dave: Yeah, of course. Yeah. Those were fun.

Reese: Yeah. Yeah. I think I, A big day was the when they used to do the scholastic.

Book fair.

Dave: I used to love the book Fair too.

Reese: I did. All the kids loved it. And it wasn't just the books, it was because they had all the other garbage shit there.

Dave: Sure.

Reese: And that's what you wanted.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: And

Dave: it was a big day when your books came in too.

Reese: It was a huge, oh God. It was

Dave: because you'd fill out, remember, remember what that it was like that weird piece of lighter than newspaper. Newspaper?

Reese: Yes. Yes. Like form. Yes.

Dave: And it had all the pictures. And then you would write in, check the things that you want. Yep. And then you had to bring in your check for Yep. Or whatever the fuck.

Reese: Sometimes they would also, they [00:21:00] would have a popup one. Yeah. With the actual,

Dave: do they even still do that in classes?

Do they still have books?

Reese: I remember the girls did in like

Dave: they did

Reese: middle school.

Dave: Okay.

Reese: I remember giving them money. Yeah. And then one day. I actually went, I met them there. Okay. Like the parents could go go. Yeah. And I met them there and who even knows, I probably spent a ton of money because them in their books still.

Yeah. With the reading. Just them in their books. Them, them kids in them, in their books. But yeah, like the book fair. But that when you used to get the form and I used to, and then my mother would have to like triple check it because I would put a thousand things on there.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: I just wanted the tchotchkes, like I liked books.

I was like, fine, I'll get one or two books. But I wanted to get like all the other little toys and whatever. Yeah. On there. That was always fun. That was like the best part of school. And then did they do chocolate? They sell chocolate, like the chocolate bars,

Dave: I'm sure. Yeah,

Reese: because that was always a controversy at a [00:22:00] very young age.

I learned how to imitate. My parents' signature.

Dave: Okay.

Reese: My mom's was the easiest. She just put mb.

Dave: Okay.

Reese: My father did the John Bernardo, but he had a very specific right, and he used to practice it. And so when I would get a bad grade and it had to be signed, I would sign it

We had a chocolate fair to do to raise money and they had the chocolate, which was plain chocolate doc chocolate.

Dave: What kind of chocolate doc?

Reese: Doc Chocolate. I'm doing all the accents today. That's my treat. That's my birthday gift to everybody else listening.

Dave: Everyone else. Thank you.

Reese: And then they had the ones with the almonds in it. Yeah. And so I would sign off on all these boxes.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: And give some out. Yeah. 'cause I'm very liberal with my parents' money.

And then I would eat some, I would hide it in my room and then it was time to pony up money. And my mother was like, what? Why am I getting this bill? [00:23:00] Yeah, we didn't get all this chocolate. I'm like, I don't know, like an asshole.

Like I, I, I just remember it was like one time, it was like so much money and I, I just wanted to win.

I wanted to eat the chocolate. But I wanted to win whatever the prizes were and the prizes so stupid. It was like these little Oh yeah. Like balls with little feet and googly eyes. Oh yeah. Like you would sell like 500 boxes of chocolate. And that was like second prize. Yeah. But I wanted it because, competitive.

So those were always fun. I don't know how my parents didn't put me up for adoption. I was a ridiculous person.

Dave: I used to, I used to hate those fundraising things though.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: Those drove me pissed.

Reese: Just they push it on you.

Dave: And it's like annoying. Yeah. It's like really? And then I also don't like it when the kids would have to do it at school.

Reese: I know

Dave: like particularly for like sports teams and stuff like that,

Reese: sports teams are big.

Dave: I'm like, you know,

Reese: and especially that they don't, all the money they raise to get uniforms or whatever, they don't get to keep it.

Dave: It depends on, it depends [00:24:00] on.

Reese: That's bullshit.

Dave: Certain things, but yeah.

Reese: That makes me mad.

Anyway,

Dave: but yeah, it's annoying.

Reese: But some of that, some of that stuff, that was like the fun stuff, like when you got to, I would always like get these injuries in school so that I could be special and take the elevator. I. I purposely you

Dave: listen, you are special.

Reese: I we have come to that conclusion when I talked about the sticker album that I was just putting together this morning.

I don't know. I used to do all these things, just, it was inevitable that I would become a theater major. 'cause I was really good at the tall tales. I used to in kindergarten one time they had to call my parents and they were like, oh, thank God you're alive. And they were like. My parents are like, what?

Why wouldn't we be alive? And they're like Maurisa told the class. We open up class in the morning and we do a prayer, and we always ask, is there anybody you want us to pray for? And I basically was like, oh yeah, my whole family got wiped out. They were all dead.

Dave: Oh no.

Reese: And they had to call my mother and be [00:25:00] like, are you guys, thank God you're alive.

And my mother was like, oh my God. Why would you, why? I just like the attention one time in kindergarten. Do

Dave: you like attention?

Reese: I know. Isn't it weird? 'cause I'm so the opposite of that, not my personality. Then there was, there was the time they couldn't find me for two hours and I was under the, in my kindergarten classroom, I was under the sink.

In the classroom, like in there was like a cabinet and I fit in it and I just

Dave: You sure you did? You'd probably go there now still.

Reese: Yeah. I definitely, I could definitely,

Dave: sometimes I find Reese under the sink.

Reese: Yes. Yes. That's why I'm hiding there so that no one can find me and I can have some alone time, but I, that's just crazy stuff I used to do.

I I, it makes sense that my mom got gray hair super early.

Dave: Yeah. Very interesting.

Reese: That coffee's good.

Dave: So a couple of things we started watching.

Reese: Oh, we're, didn't go to watching.

Dave: I think so.

Reese: Okay, let's move on.

Dave: Yeah. Last night we watched David Blaine has a new thing on the Disney Channel.

Reese: So that was, that [00:26:00] was crazy and

Dave: really cool. I wanna watch the second episode

Reese: and I'm proud of, for. Sitting through that, because there's certain things that you get the skis. Oh yeah, there was.

Dave: I definitely got skivved out in some of that. Yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks for bringing it back.

Reese: You're welcome.

Dave: Now I'm getting the tingles.

Reese: Yep. That's

Dave: getting the tingles.

Reese: That's also my birthday gift to you.

Dave: Thank you.

Reese: Yeah,

Dave: so it's actually a pretty cool concept. It's David Blaine, he does some fucking crazy shit. But it's, it's coupled with National Geographic. Mm-hmm. So he traveled to Brazil, and in Brazil he essentially found, so the way he describes it. Is he sometimes will get something in his head and then like he has to do it.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: And this is probably, they would classify this as like a DHD or something like that today, right? Yeah. And I, I'm saying it mockingly like that because I feel like this is something that everybody always has and people get obsessed with things, right? And that's why they do them.

And I feel like. Instead of just saying that, that's like a normal thing. Like we have to give it like a,

Reese: a label.

Dave: A label that it's like a bad thing. And I

don't think it's did necessarily bad things. There's severity of it, is [00:27:00] everything right?

Reese: But the way, the way that he goes about it with the show is extremely clever and it's fun to watch.

And actually I learned a lot.

Dave: Yeah. So it's educational in, in many respects, but what he had. Done was, he has had this image of diving from a bridge like on fire, right? Yeah. And, and so he found a woman that is like the best diver, and then he found another woman who has actually into fire and she has traveled through a, an active volcano

Reese: mm-hmm.

Dave: Or something like that.

Reese: Mm-hmm.

Dave: And so he met up with these two people. He has conversations with them and learns about like why they do it and you know what it is about that thing,

Reese: which was super cool.

Dave: And I loved when he talked the, the, the diver.

Reese: Yes.

Dave: And he had told her how special she was on, on what she does and she was like crying and it was such a beautiful moment.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: 'cause it's like I get that right when like you have people that kind of do things and. [00:28:00] She's heard it from other people before, like they inspire other people. And it's you don't think those things are just the thing that you do. And you don't necessarily feel like those things would be meaningful to other people.

And so it's great when you find out that it is,

Reese: when you get the validation that what you're doing is,

Dave: yeah. So it was a very sweet moment. Yeah. Yeah.

But anyway, he ended up then combining those two things, and what he wanted to do, which was, and so the, the show culminates in. Him learning and doing these things and doing some other crazy shit.

Like he, he kissed a cobra. Right. Like All this fucking crazy shit.

Reese: That was another foreign part of the show

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: Is that he goes into the Brazilian culture of,

Dave: and finds all of these,

Reese: like the showmanship,

Dave: magicians, and people that do all of these like crazy feats.

Reese: Feats right. And that, that was cool to watch.

Dave: That was well fun.

Reese: But also that's when things got icky with oh, the guy putting the knife.

Dave: Oh, the guy doing things. Yeah. Putting knife

Reese: in his nose and then the pins. I was like, you're gonna,

Dave: that was wild. Wild. That was wild too. So he has this one segment? Yeah. He put, so the guy there puts a knife in his nose, like straight, straight, all the way into [00:29:00] his,

Reese: and they took x-rays to show, show.

Dave: So he shows. David had to do it. Yeah. And then, yeah, they took x-rays so they could see, and the knife was right at the stem of his brain.

Reese: Crazy.

Dave: Wild. Wild.

Reese: So crazy. It's all but so much of that is choreographed in such a way where they make it look dangerous, but it is practiced, like they,

Dave: it's still dangerous though, I mean

Reese: at odd of what can happen. And they practice and then they create the show of it. And I just, I found that. That part of it really interesting. I will admit though, I am not the biggest fan of magic in general because it does freak me out.

Dave: He's gonna be very upset.

Reese: It does freak, it freaks me out because sometimes I'm just like. How it's like that, that thing with do you ever see what he did to Harrison Ford and Harrison Ford told him to get outta my house.

Dave: Oh. With the, the, it was a card trick. It was a card trick, but he freaks everybody out with his card tricks.

Reese: Yeah. Fucked him up.

Dave: So he's really great. And the, the [00:30:00] show called,

Reese: that was fun to watch.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: What was the name?

Dave: I don't even know. David Blaine something or other. I don't know. It's a new show on. National Geographic or Disney Plus,

Reese: highly recommend if you can tolerate that type of stuff.

Dave: So there's

Reese: stuff

Dave: episode, we should watch that.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: The show culminates in him doing his trick at the end. It was pretty cool.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: And then, and then, yeah. So then we started watching, I know we've talked about the Natalia Grace thing before, and there is now a new show with, what's her name? What's her name?

Reese: From Grey's Anatomy.

Dave: Yeah. What's her name?

Reese: Pompe Pompeo Ellen.

Dave: Ellen Pompeo or whatever.

Reese: And Duplass

Dave: And Mark Duplass. And then I think, there's some other faces you'll recognize in there.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: But they basic, essentially

Reese: they basically made like

Dave: they made ation.

Reese: It's like a, a lifetime movie version of the Natalia Grace.

Dave: So it's a series of these, and we've watched a couple of them so far, and it's, it's pretty good.

Reese: It's interesting, it's now we can finally see the mother because the documentaries that we, I think we've watched all the documentaries on this.

Dave: Does not have the mother. Yeah, [00:31:00]

Reese: the mother's never in it. They always talk about her.

Dave: Yeah. And I, I actually think that's where the story is.

Reese: Right. But we,

Dave: so it's interesting how they're telling this this way.

Reese: I'm really truly surprised that they did not, she didn't make her own documentary kind of dispelling. What's going on? Because she seems the way that they make her out is that she, is they in the show, they called her like she's got like a, A God complex or a

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: Whatever it is not a God complex. Like she's a savior. Like she tries to

Dave: Yeah. A god complex.

Reese: Save people. And it's interest

Dave: or a savior complex.

Reese: A savior complex. Is that what it was?

It was Aspecific guy you say.

Dave: I think they use

Reese: terminology but

Dave: God complex.

Reese: But they, but she has never spoken out like you would think because she was being defamed so much in the documentaries that she would want to, def defend her.

Dave: Yeah,

Reese: her legacy, which is her son, him being like a genius and she takes credit for that whole thing. But it's, it's cool [00:32:00] now to see it in, in the movie, but I do in a show

Dave: series,

Reese: but I do find myself like cringing because it's cringey. They're cringey people.

Dave: Oh, it's cringey. The whole real story is cringey.

And so Jonnie had watched this and I was like, you you, you haven't watched the documentary. You gotta watch the documentary. Because

Reese: she has no way she watched this without knowing any of that.

Dave: Because the documentary itself is crazy. And the the husband in the whole thing is

Reese: Michael,

Dave: what a character in real life.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: And and I was saying to you, it's so Mark Duplas is playing it pretty well.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: But it's almost not enough.

Reese: I think I, I'm starting to see it though, like this next episode that we watched this morning.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: It's starting to come out like the, the get rid of this.

Dave: That's what I was gonna say. It's like

Reese: he's jumping around, shaking out his nerves and teaching her that

Dave: That's true.

Reese: And like he's doing that in his office and like now you, he's saying more things that definitely sound

Dave: Yeah. 'cause this guy is off the charts,

Reese: off the charts.

Dave: Like you, you're like, is this real?

Reese: And people take them seriously. The, and

Dave: so, but what I'm saying is like an [00:33:00] actor and in the show it's very difficult because I feel if you go to that place, it makes it feel like you are overacting.

Reese: Yeah.

Dave: And it's doesn't feel like a good performance. And then you're distracted by that. And so you have to walk this fine line of not doing it true to who the character is,

Reese: right?

Dave: Because. It impacts how you perceive the performance.

Reese: But I wanna see what I mean, I, I

wanna say this whenever.

Dave: No.

Reese: We would watch the documentaries. Yes. Whenever we would watch the documentaries. I also, he's intriguing.

Dave: Sure.

Reese: But I can't take more than

Dave: No. 'cause it's too much. It's,

Reese: he's too much.

Dave: It's too much. He's ridiculous.

Reese: And so I'm like, I'm glad that there, he, he's not going full throttle with it constantly because he's part of that story.

Dave: Yeah. Yeah.

Reese: I don't know if I can. Handle that much. Michael,

Dave: it, it'll be interesting to see how the story develops. 'cause I was after the first episode I was like, okay, they're actually, they're definitely portraying it in a certain light. But then when they started, it does some jumping [00:34:00] in time and back and forth.

I was like, oh, okay. So now they're telling the other sides of it. 'cause it's a very, it's a wackadoodle

Reese: Yes

Dave: thing.

Reese: Yes.

Dave: And so it's interesting where it goes. So it'll be interesting to see how it pulls everything together and how that story completes itself. But

Reese: both the adults. Want attention, wanna be liked, wanna be revered, but they're, they're very narcissistic.

Both the parents and the only people that didn't want any part of it were their actual real children. And they kept pulling their children into this

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: Thing by also subjecting them to the adoption eventually of Natalia Grace. And they didn't take the hint at the beginning that this kid. Was kept being passed on to other families.

And it's like, how do they not realize that because they're narcissists? Because they're not thinking of that. She's just thinking, oh, now I have a disabled child. I can add that to my, [00:35:00] repertoire of, look at me saving children. I can write another book.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: You know what I mean? And and then he's a goof. He's got the three sons that really don't take to him. And now then he got, he has this girl.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: And he can spoil her. And I think he really what's the word I wanna say, he instigated a lot of the way I think she behaved, although I think she had some of those things like already

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: Connected to her.

Dave: Well, you, you definitely see they're, they're also portraying. Natalia as

Reese: a scheming.

Dave: Scheming and and she knows what she's doing.

Reese: Yes.

Dave: So it's interesting. It'd be ing

Reese: but I think she does,

Dave: we're gonna have to watch the next one 'cause they set up the next one where they learn another thing where then this becomes like a whole other piece of the story.

Yeah. Intriguing to say the least.

Reese: I'm waiting to see. 'cause I feel like so far everything has been what we've seen in the documentary.

Dave: Yeah.

Reese: So I'm interested to see if we learn anything new. But [00:36:00] I, I've, since, I've been saying since the, every time we watch one of the documentaries, there's like a bunch of them.

I'm like, I have to write, I need to, I need to make this a play. But it's such a delicate balance because I do not wanna make fun of people with handicap or

Dave: of course, yeah.

Reese: Little people or I don't wanna do that. But this family is off the charts.

Dave: It's off. Yeah. It's, it's wild.

Reese: And, and you, you're just laughing at it like, I can't, and so I, I'm trying to find my way around it, but they're doing a pretty de pretty decent job with this show so far.

But I feel as we're watching it, my whole body, I'm like,

Dave: yeah.

Reese: I'm like, I'm legitimately cringing. I don't know if you felt, I was like holding your hand, but I was like squeezing it. 'cause I'm just like, this is. What is life with these and the language that they're using too. Sweet pea. Yeah. And Bud.

Do people talk like that?

Dave: Some people do. Some people do. Sweet pea.

Reese: I guess so.

Dave: Some people do.

Reese: I guess so, [00:37:00] bud. Anyway, it So those

shows. Those shows are good. Oh. And today's a lazy day.

Dave: Yeah, today's a lazy day. I like it. It's another.

Reese: Gloomy.

Dave: Yeah. Kind of Gray day. So we're taking it chill it's always a pleasure to chat with you.

Reese: Oh, thanks Dave. Same to you. I'm gonna go put the rest of my stickers and my sticker out.

Dave: Excellent. Yeah. You've got a big day planned.

Reese: I do.

Dave: Friends, life is a group project. Be kind to each other.

Outro Music: We got the right stuff. We the hammer right now. Wanna be around you.

It,

we got the,

we the hammer right down.